Pepe Escobar | Can BRICS Dethrone US Empire? | Aug 21, 2023

Source: New Rules youtube



In this week’s episode of the New Rules podcast, host Dimitri Simes Jr. speaks with Pepe Escobar, a geopolitical analyst and writer, about BRICS, its opportunities and challenges, ahead of the summit in South Africa this week.

"We should not expect BRICS in two days in South Africa, turning the rules based international order upside down. No, this is going to be a gradual, slow moving, very challenging process. But what's happening in South Africa and immediately after South Africa, let's say, is a sort of Rosetta Stone for what's going to happen ahead."

00:00 Let's roll!
1:30 BRICS Summit in Johannesburg
8:47 BRICS expansion and BRICS+
22:20 Challenges of BRICS' development
29:49 The rising role of Africa
33:27 BRICS' internal divisions
52:01 BRICS needs its own "soft power"
54:59 Don't be a stranger!