Bigelow Podcast | Jacques Vallée: Lessons Learned after Lifetime of Investigation | Bigelow Podcast Ep. 6 | Sept. 8, 2026

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Astronomer and pioneering computer scientist Dr. Jacques Vallée may be the most influential writer and investigator of UFO and related phenomena in history. In the late 1950’s, he started a personal journal about his explorations of and interactions with UFO cases, witnesses, locations, strange materials, intelligence agencies, and quiet exchanges with an “Invisible College” of professional colleagues. His books have had a profound impact on how humanity views “the Others” and what their agenda might be.

In this episode of the podcast, Vallée explains to Robert Bigelow and George Knapp why his published journals have come to an end, and why he thinks the interactions between humans and non-human intelligence should be focused not on who “they” are, but on how their presence is changing us.

Vallée and Bigelow have worked closely together since the 1980s, first with NIDS (the National Institute for Discovery Science), and later under AAWSAP, a secretive DIA funded effort which investigated the UFO mystery along with related phenomena.

Biochemist D. Colm Kelleher, longtime colleague of both Bigelow and Vallée’s in both the NIDS and AAWSAP also joins the conversation to discuss Vallée’s “control system” theory, the appearance of unknown creatures at Skinwalker Ranch, the merging of nonhuman intelligence and consciousness research, and attempts to communicate with NHI.

Vallée explains why he thinks SOME UFOs were “designed to crash”, why he suspects the “others” are not ETs, and the future of NHI investigations.