Description:
Our American Alchemist this week is John S. Herrington, Ronald Reagan's Secretary of Energy, who ran America's nuclear weapons complex at the height of the Cold War.
John joined Reagan as a volunteer advance man in the 1960s. He later served as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, head of White House personnel, and Secretary of Energy from 1985 to 1989. In this episode, John takes us inside Reagan's cabinet: the stealth fighter he found hidden in his own budget, the Strategic Defense Initiative and Edward Teller's nuclear-powered space laser, Reagan's "throw deep" approval of the Superconducting Super Collider, and the secret Taiwanese nuclear weapons program the U.S. shut down. He also takes on the UFO question. He says the Navy's UAP videos are real, but calls a Reagan-era alien story "total B.S." and challenges David Grusch and others to show hard evidence.
John joined Reagan as a volunteer advance man in the 1960s. He later served as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, head of White House personnel, and Secretary of Energy from 1985 to 1989. In this episode, John takes us inside Reagan's cabinet: the stealth fighter he found hidden in his own budget, the Strategic Defense Initiative and Edward Teller's nuclear-powered space laser, Reagan's "throw deep" approval of the Superconducting Super Collider, and the secret Taiwanese nuclear weapons program the U.S. shut down. He also takes on the UFO question. He says the Navy's UAP videos are real, but calls a Reagan-era alien story "total B.S." and challenges David Grusch and others to show hard evidence.
Timeline:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:28 Brent Friedman's Story
00:04:26 Interview Preview
00:08:14 Meeting Ronald Reagan
00:10:11 Reagan and SDI Opposition
00:11:21 Reagan's Diaries and Speeches
00:13:02 Strategic Defense Initiative Explained
00:15:48 Edward Teller and Excalibur
00:17:33 Green Fireballs Document
00:18:47 UFOs, Navy Videos and Faith
00:21:28 Herrington Denies Brent's Story
00:24:49 The Greenbrier Bunker
00:27:26 Brent Friedman Responds
00:29:43 The 1981 Veranda Conversation
00:33:04 Underground Facilities in West Virginia
00:35:13 Polygraph and Money Questions
00:36:12 Why Brent Went Public
00:39:01 David Grusch
00:41:36 The Politico Journalist
00:44:32 UFOs at Nuclear Sites
00:46:09 Harald Malmgren's UFO Debris
00:49:06 A Secret Budget Item
00:50:59 F-117 and Skunk Works
00:52:30 UFOs as Spy Plane Cover
00:53:15 Oak Ridge Document
00:53:53 Garry Nolan's Ubatuba Sample
00:56:57 Reagan's 1974 UFO Sighting
00:58:26 Otherworldly or Man-Made
01:00:34 AI and Deepfakes
01:01:26 Stratton, Lacatski and Lazar
01:03:31 UFOs at Pantex and Fukushima
01:05:07 Bobby Ray Inman
01:06:06 UFOs and the Ocean Floor
01:07:26 CIA's Hollywood Liaison
01:09:00 Limits on Elected Leaders
01:10:32 Exotic Propulsion and Submarines
01:11:28 Nuclear Airplanes and Project Orion
01:12:43 Nuclear Tests and Roswell
01:13:37 The Question of Evidence
01:15:37 Palomar Observatory Transients
01:17:13 Parapsychology and Precognition
01:18:30 Trump and Disclosure
01:20:25 Cold Fusion
01:21:26 Spies at the Energy Department
01:22:38 PROMIS Software and Bill Richardson
01:24:09 Genesis Mission and Underfunded Programs
01:25:57 Public Fear of Nuclear Power
01:27:10 SAIC and Bobby Ray Inman
01:29:01 High-Energy Physics and UFOs
01:31:01 Marco Rubio on UAP
01:32:54 Atomic Energy Act and Rickover
01:35:13 Seafloor Recovery and Puthoff's Hypothesis
01:37:55 The CIA, Gaffney and Casey
01:40:17 Closing and Reagan Keepsakes
01:42:45 Brent on the Hazing Theory
01:44:18 DOE Roswell UFOs as an Initiation
01:47:43 Consciousness and Initiation